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Russ White's avatar

At it's base, this is an argument over the meaning of dignity and virtue. In Vivek and Elon's view of the world, dignity means "living in a nice house, with a nice car, with nice things, and nice people." This can all be ensured via growth in technology and material wealth. In this--essentially progressive--vision, virtue just means the self-discipline to produce excess value over time.

The Judeo-Christian view of dignity is far different. In this view, dignity is related to "doing what you are designed to do." Humans are designed for relationship, particularly relationship with God, but secondarily for relationship with family, and then with larger communities, leading to a nation.

You can see this in the Exodus account where God calls Israel "my children, my first-born child." This would have been no less shocking to the Egyptians than it is to us today. For Egypt, only "leaders" had dignity.

For the modern world, Vivek and Elon have "more dignity" (or have dignity at all) because they are successful.

Until we recover a Judeo-Christian vision of dignity, we are going to continue to chase "dignity that is not dignified." This path always leads to tyranny because the human person is ultimately always something to be manipulated for "something greater."

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Richard's avatar

Part of this is connected to the recent comments of JD Vance about the hierarchy of love and responsibility.

It is pretty easy for a real conservative to oppose globalism but behind that is another problem. To be a nation, the United States must cease trying to be an empire. That was the downfall of Athens Rome, Britain, France, Russia and so on. A lot of the globalism we object to really came from the post-WW2 empire of the US.

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